Saturday, November 03, 2007

Spirituality: The Age of Aquarium


The Age of Aquarium
Schools of Fish and Thought

The theists prayed and said “Amen,” while atheists said “Ahem . . .”
“There’s no such thing, you silly goofs; you haven’t any proof.”
Panentheists sought elbow room, they tried to wriggle in.
That en’s a tricky syllable; it splices God’s hair thin.

“How do you know?” agnostic said, referring to the “en.”
“I see your point – and his, and hers – yet don’t know
“Which to choose.” “Wait, I know,” Ag’s friend piped up, “Try starting
“Your own school. Decide it’s all a paradox; become a panagnostic.”

Meanwhile, the atmosphere and sea
Continually grew hotter. A school of fish went belly up;
They never even muttered. A school of fish up-belly went
And not a word was uttered.

The nameless One did scratch his head, non-literally befuddled.
“What’s up with this?” God asked himself, “Creation’s gotten
“Muddled. These chat a lot and don’t do much; those never were my
“Wishes. Next time I’m in the mood to plan, I think I’ll stop at fishes.”

Paul Martin

24 Comments:

Blogger vishesh said...
hmmm....do you know that the fish is the first of "avatars" of Vishnu? the fish is an important symbol....hmmm.....and there is a belief that as "Kalki" the would be tenth avathra humans will be killed....i just guess that we will have a guy who is like Hitler...
1:59 AM  

Blogger hazzbuzz said...
That's odd because I just posted something about Nazi's and spiritualism on my blog, I think the moral of the story is that if your head's in the clouds your feet need to be firmly on the ground. You're quite right Paul, we're running out of time.
3:48 AM  

Blogger Pauline said...
this made me chuckle

I assume the nameless one and God are one in the same - is GOD an acronym for Got Other Deities?
5:46 AM  

Anonymous Karin said...
Similar to what Hazzbuzz says, the moral seems to be that theists, agnostics and atheists are talking/arguing a lot but not doing anything. From a theological standpoint, I don't think talking about God or God-world relations amounts to no action as if theory is intrinsically disconnected from action. In practical ethics/practical theology, the two are very tightly connected. Theory informs action and vice-versa. Also, to speak theoretically is part of changing the way people think about things and in turn the way they act. For certain, some people sit in an ivory tower doing applied theology/ethics/theory etc... but many others are in the thick of things thinking, acting, thinking, and so on. Theory gets a bad wrap because it is not seen as being "practical." But it is behind all action whether we articulate it or not.
10:47 AM  

Blogger Paul said...
TO ALL FROM PAUL: You have forced me to admit that Kermit the Frog ghost wrote this post for me. If this seems to make no sense, you may want to scroll down to Oct. 20th’s post. After that it won’t make much sense either, really.

Also, it must be said in the interests of full disclosure: “fishes” was chosen because it rhymes with “wishes.”

VISHESH: I had no idea. I was vaguely aware that the fish was a symbol in early Christianity but hoped nobody would notice since I wasn’t trying to make the point that the world will eventually be taken over by early Christian symbolism and/or Christians, lol. Also, in Christianity the symbol doesn’t have negative connotations.

Hmm - fishes, wishes, and Vishesh kind of go together . . .

HAZZBUZZ: As per my reply to Vishesh, I (that is, Kermit) had no idea about the Nazis. The only serious point to me in this basically silly verse is that we really need to do something about global warming. The whole thing is happening faster than scientists originally predicted, and we’re not putting on the brakes.

PAULINE: Hmm… Can’t help but notice your phrase of God as “one in the same” instead of the usual “one and the same.” Panentheist?

KARIN: The only serious thing in the post to me was about global warming per my reply to Hazzbuzz. I very much agree with everything you say here.
11:24 AM  

Anonymous Karin said...
Sorry to misunderstand Paul. It's a touchy subject for me...clearly :-)
11:40 AM  

Blogger A.V.G.Warrier said...
Then the nameless one looked at the muddle
And mused
Idle chatting is as poisonous as meaningful actions
The ten organs and the mind that rules over them
Were created by me to express myself
Now they have become self centered
And cries hoarse for their personal satisfaction
I did indeed commit an error
When I delegated a great part of my job to them
They simply generate a lot noise
And contribute to the shooting up of entropy
Now let me take the reins again in my hands
And anchor these guys in their assigned posts
Then he went back to the fundamentals
And started afresh from the pristine roots
He sought and discovered within himself
The many productive couplets
Eager to participate in the process of production
He put them in an arc
And pushed the arc into the gooey waters of reason
And the mess started all over again
Perhaps with a little difference
11:54 AM  

Blogger Pauline said...
looked all over the web for one in the same vs one and the same - seems one IN the same (which is how I'd always heard it) is a mangled version of one AND the same - who knew?

Anyhow, I was chuckling over the fact that you named the nameless one. I haven't found a religious label that fits me.
5:41 PM  

Blogger vishesh said...
lol paul...

btw..i have written a new "story"....
4:36 AM  

Blogger kevin said...
Paul,

here is an interesting article i thought you'd like:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/magazine/04Flew-t.html?ex=1351742400&en=bdf120e4cf4bf442&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
6:52 AM  

Blogger mistipurple said...
so, Dr Seuss was god.
7:56 AM  

Blogger Paul said...
KARIN, thanks, but I can also see how the “poem” (verse…) could be read that way. A lot of people do cavalierly make that distinction – the “ivory tower” vs. the “real world” and all that. While I suppose it’s true that some small percent of intellectuals “intellectualize” and substitute thought for action, most people, in or out of academia, both think and act, just as you suggest. And the major problems in the world don't come from those who intellectualize but from those who vigorously act out their tendentious, ideological, inflexible, and simplistic thinking. Gee, an example even occurs from current events but I won't go there . . .

AVGW: Hmm… I don’t entirely follow but at least with no fish going belly up, it sounds somewhat hopeful!

PAULINE: Just glad it was you and not me. Seems like every several years I come out with something that it turns out I’ve always misheard, usually with a family member pointing it out. I’ll never learn the language.

VISHESH: Will try to look in soon, full plate this week… Meanwhile, of course:

Besh Vishes . . .
Paul

KEVIN: Thanks, Kevin. Interesting and unusual story – someone allegedly converted to theism by reason. And after all these years, finally getting the teleological argument (from design) to work!

To pursue my own metaphor, it sounds a bit fishy . . . I’ve encountered other books purporting to finally prove God’s existence via logic that didn’t work.

The essential problem with such attempts, it seems to me, is that God’s existence is finally an empirical question. Any proof would have to be in the domain of some form of experience. I don’t follow how one proves the existence of anything at all through logic.

If we could figure out a thing’s existence through logic, then, for example, scientists – for that matter, why would we need them . . . rather, logicians – could sit around a table and decisively conclude whether or not intelligent life exists on other planets. Why bother with the expensive telescopes or spacecraft?

MISTIPURPLE: I don’t know if that’s really such a god theory . . .
12:32 PM  

Anonymous Mark said...
Very good, ha!
4:17 PM  

Blogger Keshi said...
My mum says the same thing abt Fishes...as Vishesh stated.

Keshi.
7:35 PM  

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10:39 PM  

Blogger Paul said...
MARK, thanks -

KESHI: I'm aghast . . .

LOVESEA: Azamazing!
11:31 PM  

Blogger A.V.G.Warrier said...
Paul: I must say that there is nothing very original in the theme of my poem.

Somewhere I had read the story of Noah and his famous arc. It had fascinated my young mind at that time. The image of an arc filled with a bevy of newly married couples of all species set out on a voyage with no destination seemed very romantic to me.

Later on in Hindu mythology I came across a very similar character indulging in the pairing business. Brahma, the presiding deity of creation was going through the motions of creation. At some stage he created the eleven rudras, the consummators corresponding to the five sense organs, the five organs for action and the mind that controls all of them and delegated the proliferation of beings to them. The creations of these rudras were as insatiable as themselves and the universe was fast turning into a nest of unrest. Brahma then restrained and thought of better ways. He divided himself into the male and female principles and left the continuation of the process of creation to them. And it continues on and on like that.

I guess rediscovery of the romance of being at all levels is the relevant theme always. When an atheist marries a theist it will only create a lot of heat. When a male atheist marries a female atheist or when a male theist marries a female theist they will beget beautiful children. Similar beautiful results happen also when a male atheist marries a female theist, or vice versa.

May be the problem encountered by Noah and Brahma were just the same…the drying up of the elixir of romance when the process of categorization got corrupted as compartmentalization.
1:51 AM  

Blogger Alexys Fairfield said...
Hi Paul,
Very entertaining and true. We know that fish are in schools, but do we even know what type of schools fish are in?
11:53 AM  

Blogger Paul said...
AVGW: It's good that our sex cells have transcended religious strife. Now the brain neurons just need to catch up . . .

ALEXYS F: I think we can rule out swimming lessons, but beyond that I'm stumped.
5:45 PM  

Blogger firebird said...
Ah! Yes. Love your post, Paul. But God gets bored, easily, too...why else would we be here?
4:31 PM  

Blogger Paul said...
FIREBIRD: I don't know, but (S)he just may go for a greater variety of tropical fish next time - could make for a nice hobby. In the year 2525 or thereabouts I suppose.

(No fishy eschatology here, just an obscure pop culture reference - Zager and Evans c. maybe 1970?)

Good to see you around -
8:39 PM  

Blogger gratefulbear said...
As a panENtheist, I love this poem!

Thanks for your recent comment at my Blog of the Grateful Bear. I've added you to my blogroll of "Cyberfriends in the Blogosphere."

Can't wait to read your book!

~ Grateful Bear
7:07 PM  

Blogger Paul said...
GRATEFULBEAR, I appreciate it. You've been added to my roll, and I look forward to dropping by your site again --
11:33 PM  

Blogger Lantern Bearer said...
Karin said...

>>>>>Theory gets a bad wrap because it is not seen as being "practical." But it is behind all action whether we articulate it or not.<<<<<

Excellent!

Paul, if there is in fact some function like "law of attraction", you are blessed with it.

I AM

Lantern Bearer
12:27 PM  

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