Wednesday, July 15, 2009

The Problem of Evil & the Problem of Me-ville

“I don’t have any complaints.”

“Life isn’t fair.” (!)

People often make the first statement when things are going well for them. The second often comes to people as a surprising realization at some point in their lives when things are going badly for them.

Notice that in each case, there is an assumption that things ought to be going well for us personally. A billion people go to bed hungry every night, folks around the world suffer every imaginable deprivation and outrage from one minute to the next… But nothing bad should happen to me or anyone I happen to be particularly close to. That’s just not how life’s supposed to work.

We are troubled by the very fact that we should have troubles. We consistently compare ourselves with those whom we perceive as more fortunate than ourselves, not less. “Less” doesn’t count. Of course there are those less fortunate than us. Whatever… But the fact that there are those more fortunate, sometimes WAY more fortunate – well, that’s just not right.

It's an interesting perspective…

How much of the theological problem of evil might really be the problem of me-ville? (How much could these be related to the problem of bad puns?)

But really… notice that even Job’s crisis of faith came about in response to losing his own health and having his own roof cave in – and not after this happened to his neighbor across the way...

16 Comments:

Blogger mistipurple said...
heh. because me-ville is self centred.
2:46 AM  

Blogger Vincent said...
I find three strands interwoven in your post, just as they are interwoven in society. Here’s an analysis:

1) the instinctive urge to survival, covering self and close family, prepared to defend itself against any who threaten that survival. In this context “evil” as adjective comes from Old English as an “expression of disapproval, dislike or disparagement”; or as noun describes a source of “harm, injury, misfortune, disease”. It’s not judgmental, just a reflection of fact – this situation is bad for me.

2) in Western affluent society, the deliberate manipulation of this instinctive urge for commercial and political purposes. The “we” you refer to are bombarded with propaganda images and verbal ideas, many of them artificial, creating a false sense of anxiety which is then made real by the stresses of competition. There is a sense (whether true or false varies in each case) of being surrounded by enemies.

3) the tendency derived from religious conditioning to judge oneself and others; a) to posit an entity called evil which resides in them and makes them do bad things – thus defining evil as a cause (wickedness) rather than an effect (harm); b) to take conventional remarks such as “I don’t have any complaints” or “life isn’t fair” as evidence of the disordered view of life which you call “an interesting perspective”.

Personally, I don’t have any complaints, either. But life isn’t fair, too. Blessings and curses seem to rain down on us arbitrarily.
4:28 AM  

Blogger Paul said...
Misti – And when you think about it, extremely so…

Vincent – You point to some of the important cultural and biological factors that can be involved with the tacit assumption that bad things somehow shouldn’t happen to us.

“Evil” and “the problem of evil” is the traditional western phraseology, but I share your reservations about implied judgmentalism. Our difficulty with "harm" or "suffering" coming our way would be a better choice of words, but it would have less readily conveyed what I was trying to talk about to people who grew up with a western theological orientation. (Besides, I’d have lost the bad or perhaps evil pun...)

That orientation, it seems to me, heightens the difficulty because it becomes necessary to try to reconcile a benign, intelligent entity as being in control of existence with the existence of suffering.
11:46 AM  

Blogger crystal said...
Maybe as long as things are going ok for someone, they can maintain the fiction that life is fair - they know things are going badly for others, but have the assumption that those people must somehow be deserving of their fate?

I try to remind myself that I'm somewhere in the middle - that though I feel disadvantaged, there are people less well off. It doesn't really help so much :) I guess I do compare my life as it is not to how it is for others but to how I want it to be for me - the thought of all those less fortunate than me isn't making me feel a whole lot better.
3:01 PM  

Blogger Paul said...
Crystal – “Maybe as long as things are going ok for someone, they can maintain the fiction that life is fair - they know things are going badly for others, but have the assumption that those people must somehow deserve their fate."

That strikes me as a major function of religion/spirituality for many people - one that's seldom directly stated but often easy to infer. I can imagine that it would be reassuring for as long as things are going well, but would think that it must throw people into confusion and self doubt in hard times.

I know what you mean about comparing your life to how you wish it were. I imagine it’s impossible for anybody not to do that sometimes.
9:24 PM  

Blogger SusieQ said...
My sister went through some very hard years a while back. Divorce, financial problems, problems with her children. She tried to be a trooper about it all and would say "Oh, well, things could be worse." She quit saying that, because, she claimed, it seemed that things in fact did get worse every time she said things could be worse.

One of my daughters has trouble keeping her weight down. She has to be very careful about what she eats...and she enjoys food. This angers her because she sees certain other people eat to their heart's content and never gain a pound. She'll say to me in her frustration, "It isn't fair." There is no religious teaching prompting her to draw that conclusion. It just seems unfair to her that other people can eat what they want and not gain weight, but she can't.

When my cousin Betty developed a brain tumor, I remember saying to her mother (my Aunt Sue, Paul), that it wasn't fair. Betty eventually died. What seemed unfair to me about her brain tumor and subsequent death, although it really doesn't make much sense, is that my cousin Betty was very health conscious. She took good care of herself healthwise. She followed all the health rules and so on. Then she comes down with cancer and dies. It does really seem unfair of life to do that to her, and, again, I know this is irrational.

Sometimes we do not give much thought to the pain and suffering of others, or get too close to it because we are very uncomfortable with the idea of pain and suffering. I know individuals who will not go to the hospital to visit a patient there,even a loved one, because hospitals are about pain and suffering. I know individuals who will not step inside a nursing home for the same reason. Nursing homes tend to be about pain and suffering..and DEATH. I have often wondered to what extent our dread of dying and leaving this life contributes to some of the problems we have in the world.
12:27 AM  

Blogger Paul said...
Susie - "’It isn't fair.’ There is no religious teaching prompting her to draw that conclusion…”

I’ve noticed that too – that people with no religious affiliation also generally seem to expect life to treat them fairly. The theological “problem of evil” just seems to heighten the complaints and objections that people are prone to make anyway.

With or without a God, people usually seem to expect life to treat people fairly – particularly themselves and their loved ones.
10:47 AM  

Blogger Hayden said...
"The problem of evil" is, to me, deeply misleading. We need additional/ new terminology. Hannah Arendt pointed out the "banality of evil" more than a half century ago, yet still we look for the smell of sulphur and the cloven hooves before we strongly sanction behavior that leads inexorably to the destruction of others. (Wal-Mart, anyone?) I recently read an article defending standard business practices by saying they'd "long looked for the evil characterized in business, and not found it." They missed that "evil" is most often a result of many small self-centered or non-thinking actions.

To me, this problem percolates through the conversation of fair /unfair and misfortune as well. We look for something bad enough to judge 'evil', and are frustrated when we don't find it.

Yet almost every one of us lives out of balance with the planet and with what is sustainable and "decent."

You are absolutely right. We insist that abundance and good health is our personal birthright, while doing nothing to insure that others are treated as well. Those who have less... 'don't count.'
12:38 PM  

Blogger Hayden said...
(I did notice that about Job. As a result, I never could understand the story - he did not seem commendable to me. When I was quite young I tried questioning the story but was let know I was out of line. I took it as another example of 'why christianity is a non-starter for me.')
12:40 PM  

Blogger Paul said...
Hayden - "’Evil’ is most often a result of many small self-centered or non-thinking actions.” That sounds right to me. And maybe those human actions that are most horrific are related to mental illness.
3:13 PM  

Blogger Pauline said...
Fairness is a human concept, or at least I perceive it to be since I cannot hear (or understand) complaints from other forms of nature. Is it fair, for example, that parasitic plants use the water and nutrients of their host plants to sustain themselves? Or that parasitic insects or bacteria use their hosts and then kill them? There's an article in eScience News titled How Fairness is Wired in the Brain. It makes for interesting reading...
http://esciencenews.com/articles/2008/05/29/how.fairness.wired.brain
7:58 PM  

Blogger Paul said...
Pauline - I think so too - on fairness as a human concept. Human life is as fair as we make it. I don't think the stars or trees or wind know anything about it.

Thanks for the link. Interesting to consider the role of the brain.
8:31 PM  

Blogger vishesh said...
well if you aren't there , then the world doesn't exist , at least in your eyes...its the same brain after all...which tries to find the y in happiness and tries to straighten whatever we see upside down :)
12:29 AM  

Blogger Rolling said...
hi been grappling with some grave me-ville issues and could not get here to say hi to you or even to check how you were, now when I feel calmer out of the storm had to come to you once. amazing things happened: fiercely bad, equally good
a hug today because I need it
(me, me, me first....but you know I experience this whole world through me, so it isn't that bad now, is it?)
wish you love and peace
3:06 PM  

Blogger Rolling said...
me-ville is where I live
E-vil is where I would rather not be, the one that I use sometimes when I am locked out of this house for some reason, mostly bec I forget the keys or something
3:14 PM  

Blogger Paul said...
Vishesh - So there's a larger perspecive than the view from Me-ville, if I understand correctly...

Rolling - Thanks for stopping by, virtual hug back, and as to "I experience this whole world through me..." - that speaks to human identity. Speaking personally, it has turned out that there is much more to me than I would have thought earlier in my life.
7:22 PM  

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